Discussion:
No longer Express delisting ?
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Norprotex
2009-11-15 12:03:23 UTC
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IP 86.66.1.158
We have payed last monday (9/11) to "expressdeslisting" (Nº de reçu :
1049-8946-1579-6072) but we corrected the problem in our exchange
server only this day (friday 13/11).
We know that we have not worked in the good order but now we can't do
a new "express delisting" because the system say "Expedited
expressdelisting is no longer available for this IP, because the owner
has declared to dislike that option". WE NEVER CHOOSE THIS OPTION !

How can we do ??
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
2009-11-16 19:59:31 UTC
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In <cbc1fafd-e7e3-4324-9bae-***@r24g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, on
11/15/2009
1049-8946-1579-6072) but we corrected the problem in our exchange server
only this day (friday 13/11).
Why?
We know that we have not worked in the good order but now we can't do a
new "express delisting" because the system say "Expedited
expressdelisting is no longer available for this IP, because the owner
has declared to dislike that option".
I agree with you that the wording of the message is wrong, but IMHO it was
appropriate to remove the option. Were it my list I would probably have
had an escalating[1] express delisting fee, an escalating processing delay
on express delisting and an escalating[1] TTL on the listing. However,
since it's not my list[2], Claus has no obligation to pay attention to
that, and he's probably done more analysis of his options than I have.
How can we do ??
Well, if he lets you back in I suggest that you fix the problems first.

[1] Definitely superlinear, possibly subexponential.

[2] If it were, times would be in UTC and I would try to find a way
to provide more details without compromising my sources.
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DevilsPGD
2009-11-16 20:04:30 UTC
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Post by Norprotex
IP 86.66.1.158
I'm going to assume you're talking about UCEPROTECT or their family of
lists? -- You really should mention which blocklist you're talking about
though, assumptions aren't always good.
Post by Norprotex
1049-8946-1579-6072) but we corrected the problem in our exchange
server only this day (friday 13/11).
There's your first mistake.
Post by Norprotex
We know that we have not worked in the good order but now we can't do
a new "express delisting" because the system say "Expedited
expressdelisting is no longer available for this IP, because the owner
has declared to dislike that option". WE NEVER CHOOSE THIS OPTION !
My guess is that you (or someone else reviewing the same situation)
clicked on the "I feel like this is extortion" option at some point.

However, it's possible that the option disappears automatically after
paying for an express delisting without resolving the underlying
problem.

At this point your best bet is likely to wait out the listing's expiry.
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D. Stussy
2009-11-16 20:05:14 UTC
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Post by Norprotex
IP 86.66.1.158
1049-8946-1579-6072) but we corrected the problem in our exchange
server only this day (friday 13/11).
We know that we have not worked in the good order but now we can't do
a new "express delisting" because the system say "Expedited
expressdelisting is no longer available for this IP, because the owner
has declared to dislike that option". WE NEVER CHOOSE THIS OPTION !
Although personally I consider the whole thing as extortion, didn't you
read where it says [paraphrased]:

You should fix the problem BEFORE requesting de-listing.
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Claus v. Wolfhausen
2009-11-17 11:10:15 UTC
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Post by Norprotex
IP 86.66.1.158
1049-8946-1579-6072) but we corrected the problem in our exchange
server only this day (friday 13/11).
We know that we have not worked in the good order but now we can't do
a new "express delisting" because the system say "Expedited
expressdelisting is no longer available for this IP, because the owner
has declared to dislike that option". WE NEVER CHOOSE THIS OPTION !
First you should not pay for expedited delisting as long as your problems are
not fixed. Our website tells you that it is nothing than a waste of money to
pay without fixing in first place.

Clicking the "I feel extorted" button is a 100% safe methodics to get proof
that we at UCEPROTECT-Network do NOT extort listees and also that we DO NOT
want them to pay for removal.

As soon as you or anyone which is using your IP clicks that button, expedited
expressdelisting is no longer offered to you.
You or anyone which has access to your IP *HAS* clicked that button.
Post by Norprotex
How can we do ??
Normally you would now have to wait for automatic and free expiration.
Since you claim you wouldn't have chosen that option i did exceptionally remove
the extortionscreamer flag.
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